It’s something you can’t really teach - you either get it, or you don’t. I think that there are so many producers that don’t understand what we do as a band, and don’t know how to record it, and don’t know how to…I mean, you’re trying to describe a sound and you’re using bands like Black Flag or Minor Threat to describe it, and if you’re working with a producer who doesn’t know that, you’re lost. He comes from an incredibly diverse background, being with The Descendants and Black Flag, and he’s now playing with The Lemonheads. We had certainly hooked up with Bill a few more times since that record - we toured with his band Only Crime, we’d been back through Fort Collins and the Denver area a few times. We were familiar with Bill and had a great relationship with him, and we sort of missed that relationship. ![]() It wasn’t a change so much as it was going back, because Bill did our second record. ![]() What did Bill offer that was different than what you had dealt with before? You went to Bill Stevenson to produce The Sufferer and the Witness.
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